Relentlessly positive speculations on Bulma and Vegeta’s relationship leave me a bit cold

dragonbabezee:

I actually think, given the personalities of these two characters, that there were moments, and even long periods of hell in that marriage that made the good times feel like life-rafts to cling to in the slow-motion storm of two maladjusted people who, having fallen in love, are now trying to co-exist.

Maybe it’s because I project my own relationship onto theirs, but between them Bulma and Vegeta possess many of the personality “quirks” (read flaws, as they are not very quirky when you live with them day in and day out) as me and my husband do - introversion, perfectionism, obsessive-tendencies, workaholism, defining oneself by ones achievements, inability to let go of goals, anxiety and depression.  Between me and my husband we’ve got these bases covered, and it is no fucking bed of roses.

In my mind there were times when Bulma was just hanging on, not sure of any way forward or any path to happiness with Vegeta, and there were times when Vegeta couldn’t raise his mind or heart to his family over the dullness of his depression and dissatisfaction.  I bet there were times when Bulma thought that the chances of them both making it to old age were pretty low.  I bet there were days when she was wracked by anxiety and heartbreak and then told herself to just harden her heart an get on with things.  And all those dark days made the times of ease and happiness feel drunk with joy - a magic not to be taken for granted.  Off the top of my head I can only think of Springandbysummerfall’s fics that tread this territory.

There are not many fan fictions or fan comics out there that portray them struggling to achieve and maintain a normal, happy relationship.  Most still conform to the romance-novel formula; the relationship is prevented by internal force A and external force B, and once these things have been tackled the relationship can continue in giddy happiness forever and anon.  There are many cute and touching stories about what what their later marriage was like.  I appreciate them, and many are quite realistic, but they are almost invariably absent any on-going problems or conflicts.  They are slightly idealised visions of a marriage, but I do think that Bulma and Vegeta would have struggled to get close to “normal”, never mind the idealised.  Probably people would rather dwell on happier speculations - their fictions after all are likely to be tinged with aspiration (I know mine are), and we all would like to imagine the best for ourselves and not think of marriage as a battle to the death on a rollercoaster that makes the participants laugh with relief whenever it’s not plunging to new depths or spiralling off the tracks.  Still, a few stories about characters coming through dark times to walk in the light again wouldn’t go amiss for those on the same path.

Has anyone actually old enough to be married ever felt that way about Vegebul fan fiction, or even fiction in general?   Perhaps it’s just me that does.

Well aren’t I in a grim mood today?

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Oh man, I read this and completely forgot to reblog!

Okay, gotta say something. I had a revelation reading this, cause yes, the fluff is everywhere and I can´t deny, I like it as well and I write it as well and somehow it takes away SO MUCH potential!

But there is also something else… I once read a Fanfic that was more like what you describe here, Vegeta and Bulma were together but barely, it was as if they didn´t even know why and they completely lacked any ability to communicate with each other. It made me highly uncomfortable reading that but it was also incredibly intense.

I think I have to give it a try, writing something about how their relationship is not all love and devotion and endless bliss, but real.

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This is honestly the best poster I have found in a while supporting breast cancer awareness. I am honestly so sick of seeing, “set the tatas free” and “save the boobies”. There is no reason in hell a life threatening, life ruining disease should be sexualized. “Don’t wear a bra day,” go fuck yourselves. You’re not saving a pair of tits, you’re saving the entire package: mind, body, and soul included. Women are not just a pair of breasts.

loki-has-a-tardis:

This is honestly the best poster I have found in a while supporting breast cancer awareness. I am honestly so sick of seeing, “set the tatas free” and “save the boobies”. There is no reason in hell a life threatening, life ruining disease should be sexualized. “Don’t wear a bra day,” go fuck yourselves. You’re not saving a pair of tits, you’re saving the entire package: mind, body, and soul included. Women are not just a pair of breasts.

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7 Things I Wish Parents Would Stop Teaching Their Children:

goddess-river:

  1. That nudity is inherently sexual
  2. That people should be judged for their personal decisions
  3. That yelling solves problems
  4. That they are too young to be talking about the things they’re already starting to ask questions about
  5. That age correlates to importance
  6. That interacting with someone of the opposite sex is inherently romantic
  7. That the default for someone is straight and cisgender

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7 Things I Wish Parents Would Stop Teaching Their Children:

goddess-river:

  1. That nudity is inherently sexual
  2. That people should be judged for their personal decisions
  3. That yelling solves problems
  4. That they are too young to be talking about the things they’re already starting to ask questions about
  5. That age correlates to importance
  6. That interacting with someone of the opposite sex is inherently romantic
  7. That the default for someone is straight and cisgender

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This is barely even the best part of Musashi. One, he wrote a book of philosophy that works for warfare and life. Two, one of those late duels he arrived hungover and with a sword he made out of a boat oar (which was fine since he specialized in the bokken). He charged up the beach, killed his foe, and ran back, timed perfectly for his boat to leave with the tide. Three, his first kill was at 13, when a warrior came into town looking for challengers. Young Musashi offered up a challenge. While his uncle tried to apologize for the boy’s disrespect, Musashi managed to steal the warrior’s sword and kill him (the warrior) with it.

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This is barely even the best part of Musashi. One, he wrote a book of philosophy that works for warfare and life. Two, one of those late duels he arrived hungover and with a sword he made out of a boat oar (which was fine since he specialized in the bokken). He charged up the beach, killed his foe, and ran back, timed perfectly for his boat to leave with the tide. Three, his first kill was at 13, when a warrior came into town looking for challengers. Young Musashi offered up a challenge. While his uncle tried to apologize for the boy’s disrespect, Musashi managed to steal the warrior’s sword and kill him (the warrior) with it.

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"There is a reason that most fanfiction authors, specifically girls, start with a Mary Sue. It’s because girls are taught that they are never enough. You can’t be too loud, too quiet, too smart, too stupid. You can’t ask too many questions or know too many answers. No one is flocking to you for advice. Then something wonderful happens. The girl who was told she’s stupid finds out that she can be a better wizard than Albus Dumbledore. And that is something very important. Terrible at sports? You’re a warrior who does backflips and Legolas thinks you’re THE BEST. No friends? You get a standing ovation from Han Solo and the entire Rebel Alliance when you crash-land safely on Hoth after blowing up the Super Double Death Star. It’s all about you. Everyone in your favorite universe is TOTALLY ALL ABOUT YOU.

I started writing fanfiction the way most girls did, by re-inventing themselves.

Mary Sues exist because children who are told they’re nothing want to be everything."

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…or how to write yourself in a corner and never get out of it. If anyone ever needed evidence that Toriyama wasn´t thinking his story through to the actual end (granted,…

I would have to check but Raditz is stronger than the little bug soldiers and being a saiyan he pretty much always had a the possibility to become stronger. As for he being weak or not, he seems to be an elite at a young age which means he is stronger than his third class father who we never doubt is strong. The reason we never doubt bardock is strong is because we are never told he is weak while vegeta pretty much says everyone is weak except for himself and Goku and i feel vegeta is the least reliable source because of how bias he is towards anyone one number weaker than him. So imo raditz was average saiyan with potential or above average just not above vegeta and nappa but lets remember he was above piccolo and goku and it took 2 and some help from a kid we are told always had some inner power beyond that of his father to bring him down.

But yeah tori is kind of erratic with his writing lmao.

Maybe power levels are bullshit. XD The thing about Raditz being barely stronger than Saibamen is from those databooks (which, in all honesty, was illogic from the start, and was really fanmadely after Frieza Arc,) and Toriyama couldn’t have cared less about them when he revisited the manga. I don’t think his new canon was THAT t strange, given just what we given in the original manga. 

AT stated that Nappa have equal status below Vegeta in their gang, and given that Nappa was totally beaten by Goku (then 8000 in power) Nappa couldn’t have been more than 6000 or 7000. Surely Raditz was at least half that level to be “equal” with Nappa ?)   Like what was said, if Piccolo used other techniques and Goku didn’t grab him still , what would guarantee they would have not been as fucked as in the fight with Nappa and Vegeta? And actually, despite Vegeta, he and Nappa never pressed that strongly about how much of a weakling Raditz was in terms of power level. All Vegeta said was “Tch, beaten by guys with power levels below 1000” (as if normally Raditz was so much stronger than that) and later Nappa said “That stupid Raditz was careless.” Now I’ll sit with the notion that Raditz was like 3000, 4000 or something at that time. He couldn’t have been that weak. As for Vegeta, I don’t believe he was that immensely stronger than the other two either. After the zenkai from the battle on earth he was like only 20000 on Namek, so before he was surely A LOT weaker, let alone when he was a 7 year old kid. 3 or 4 times stronger than Raditz is the most logical  he can be. Even Raditz said : “The other two are a lot stronger than I”. It’s not like he meant they are ten times stronger than him. 

About the circumtances surrounding the three Saiyans, we best forget about ANYTHING outside the manga (the anime filler and TV special) when we talk about Raditz and Vegeta in Minus. I think if we agree that Raditz couldn’t have been that weak, him being sent on a team with Kid Vegeta is plausible. Maybe they wanted Raditz to learn some battle experience? To a guy like Vegeta, pairing them togther would be senseless, but i don’t think to US and whoever paired them up, it was that senseless. Nappa is another story now. It’s safe to say he was never Vegeta’s nanny or any kind of close servant in this new canon. If anything, i believe he was some other survivor that they found and made teamment after everything with Vegeta-sei was done. Raditz was not the one who was “found and kept”. 

Puh, okay, I feel the need to make a confession. This is making me rather uncomfortable, cause I know, especially now, why I made that original post. I was highly influenced by the TFS abridged series… and that I haven´t noticed that till now is actually horrible and embarrassing. I stopped watching TFS because they are sexist and stopped being funny rather quickly and I was also super annoyed by the flood of ‘canon’ that came from them into the DBZ fandom. Yeah, well… So I made a mistake on that regard.

Another thing, most of my headcanons originated around 3 years ago, and back then the only knowledge there was of this matter was ‘Goku was sent away as an infant, logically Radditz who was somehow weak must´ve been equally weak and Bardock as well and anyway’ I see the flaws in that. Basically, that Radditz post is outdated now and I want to say thanks again to the great discussion, it definitely changed my view on the matter completely!

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caveatdoujin said: Hi hi! Pretend this is 'peoplegetdestroyed' of that VegeBul post. I TOTALLY appreciate that view of them which you posted. Now that's what I would like to seemore often, as opposed to constant fluff! (Comedic stuff is also acceptable. Heh heh.) And I agree with you on GoChi too. I'm more on that team overall, actually. ;p It may not be the "standard" relationship, but things like 'not being together ALL THE TIME' don't bother me. They obviously care for each other and that's what's important.

peoplegetdestroyed:

nevaehs:

Omg, you know, this constant urge of the fandom here on tumblr to only accept ONE opinion and everything else is BAD and WRONG is horrible. I gotta admit, that was the main reason I made ‘dbzideas’ cause I was so fed up with everyone being content with just one take on it…

I gotta admit, a couple years ago when I got back in the fandom after long long time, I started reading DBZ FFs for the first time and I readily accepted Gochi as mediocre as well. I changed my mind pretty drastically after I started writing myself, since every character has so much potential, IF USED. Most writers just don´t do that.

And anyway, sometimes I don´t understand it. I mean, when I was 15 or something I was more passionate about that stuff as well (though I was always pretty open to every kind of pairing) but I`m 26 and I think it´s riddiculous to waste time with pros and cons about this or that pairing, this or that canon or headcanon or fanon blablaaa… why not just share whatever view one has and discuss it a bit and then maybe adapt it a bit or not! But obviously most adults on this site are not quite as adult as they want to be… *cough*

But for reals dbzideas is so super good. Thorough, articulate, and chill; all the best things. You’re kinda one of my headcanon heroes. ;D

=^^= Okay, that made my day, thanks a lot!