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…or how to write yourself in a corner and never get out of it. If anyone ever needed evidence that Toriyama wasn´t thinking his story through to the actual end (granted,…

I would have to check but Raditz is stronger than the little bug soldiers and being a saiyan he pretty much always had a the possibility to become stronger. As for he being weak or not, he seems to be an elite at a young age which means he is stronger than his third class father who we never doubt is strong. The reason we never doubt bardock is strong is because we are never told he is weak while vegeta pretty much says everyone is weak except for himself and Goku and i feel vegeta is the least reliable source because of how bias he is towards anyone one number weaker than him. So imo raditz was average saiyan with potential or above average just not above vegeta and nappa but lets remember he was above piccolo and goku and it took 2 and some help from a kid we are told always had some inner power beyond that of his father to bring him down.

But yeah tori is kind of erratic with his writing lmao.

Maybe power levels are bullshit. XD The thing about Raditz being barely stronger than Saibamen is from those databooks (which, in all honesty, was illogic from the start, and was really fanmadely after Frieza Arc,) and Toriyama couldn’t have cared less about them when he revisited the manga. I don’t think his new canon was THAT t strange, given just what we given in the original manga. 

AT stated that Nappa have equal status below Vegeta in their gang, and given that Nappa was totally beaten by Goku (then 8000 in power) Nappa couldn’t have been more than 6000 or 7000. Surely Raditz was at least half that level to be “equal” with Nappa ?)   Like what was said, if Piccolo used other techniques and Goku didn’t grab him still , what would guarantee they would have not been as fucked as in the fight with Nappa and Vegeta? And actually, despite Vegeta, he and Nappa never pressed that strongly about how much of a weakling Raditz was in terms of power level. All Vegeta said was “Tch, beaten by guys with power levels below 1000” (as if normally Raditz was so much stronger than that) and later Nappa said “That stupid Raditz was careless.” Now I’ll sit with the notion that Raditz was like 3000, 4000 or something at that time. He couldn’t have been that weak. As for Vegeta, I don’t believe he was that immensely stronger than the other two either. After the zenkai from the battle on earth he was like only 20000 on Namek, so before he was surely A LOT weaker, let alone when he was a 7 year old kid. 3 or 4 times stronger than Raditz is the most logical  he can be. Even Raditz said : “The other two are a lot stronger than I”. It’s not like he meant they are ten times stronger than him. 

About the circumtances surrounding the three Saiyans, we best forget about ANYTHING outside the manga (the anime filler and TV special) when we talk about Raditz and Vegeta in Minus. I think if we agree that Raditz couldn’t have been that weak, him being sent on a team with Kid Vegeta is plausible. Maybe they wanted Raditz to learn some battle experience? To a guy like Vegeta, pairing them togther would be senseless, but i don’t think to US and whoever paired them up, it was that senseless. Nappa is another story now. It’s safe to say he was never Vegeta’s nanny or any kind of close servant in this new canon. If anything, i believe he was some other survivor that they found and made teamment after everything with Vegeta-sei was done. Raditz was not the one who was “found and kept”. 

Puh, okay, I feel the need to make a confession. This is making me rather uncomfortable, cause I know, especially now, why I made that original post. I was highly influenced by the TFS abridged series… and that I haven´t noticed that till now is actually horrible and embarrassing. I stopped watching TFS because they are sexist and stopped being funny rather quickly and I was also super annoyed by the flood of ‘canon’ that came from them into the DBZ fandom. Yeah, well… So I made a mistake on that regard.

Another thing, most of my headcanons originated around 3 years ago, and back then the only knowledge there was of this matter was ‘Goku was sent away as an infant, logically Radditz who was somehow weak must´ve been equally weak and Bardock as well and anyway’ I see the flaws in that. Basically, that Radditz post is outdated now and I want to say thanks again to the great discussion, it definitely changed my view on the matter completely!

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caveatdoujin said: Hi hi! Pretend this is 'peoplegetdestroyed' of that VegeBul post. I TOTALLY appreciate that view of them which you posted. Now that's what I would like to seemore often, as opposed to constant fluff! (Comedic stuff is also acceptable. Heh heh.) And I agree with you on GoChi too. I'm more on that team overall, actually. ;p It may not be the "standard" relationship, but things like 'not being together ALL THE TIME' don't bother me. They obviously care for each other and that's what's important.

Omg, you know, this constant urge of the fandom here on tumblr to only accept ONE opinion and everything else is BAD and WRONG is horrible. I gotta admit, that was the main reason I made ‘dbzideas’ cause I was so fed up with everyone being content with just one take on it…

I gotta admit, a couple years ago when I got back in the fandom after long long time, I started reading DBZ FFs for the first time and I readily accepted Gochi as mediocre as well. I changed my mind pretty drastically after I started writing myself, since every character has so much potential, IF USED. Most writers just don´t do that.

And anyway, sometimes I don´t understand it. I mean, when I was 15 or something I was more passionate about that stuff as well (though I was always pretty open to every kind of pairing) but I`m 26 and I think it´s riddiculous to waste time with pros and cons about this or that pairing, this or that canon or headcanon or fanon blablaaa… why not just share whatever view one has and discuss it a bit and then maybe adapt it a bit or not! But obviously most adults on this site are not quite as adult as they want to be… *cough*

Vegeta ♥ Bulma

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Okay okay, it took me long enough, right? To finally write about my OTP 5eva!!!11! Thing is, I wasn´t sure what to write, cause I´ve written stories about them and basically everyone has an opinion on the matter and just saying ‘well they ARE perfect’ meh.

But that has changed! So, first of all, there are a million reasons the ship shouldn´t work. I do love both of them with other characters as well and I totally see the flaws. Like Vegeta came back to Earth but not interested anymore or Bulma simply didn´t want to date him or they did in fact get together but it just didn´t work cause the species difference put a lot of strain on the relationship or the fact that their lives had been so different etc etc. Totally valid, should write FFs about all of it.

But then again, they are also perfect for each other. Let´s think about the fact that Vegeta is a straight up murderer (and not only because he was forced to…) which cannot be simply dismissed by humans just because ‘Saiyans are like that!’ and he never showed remorse. Ever. And this is pretty much a good reason for Bulma to be totally into him, cause let´s face it, she shot Goku in the head. And she was sure he would die from it. I wouldn´t even be surprised if Bulma wasn´t a murderer herself, it´s surely not for lack of trying! She wouldn´t hesitate for that reason.

I firmly believe that it was Bulma who started it all. Maybe she wanted to prove that she could. Because that´s Bulma, knowing everything and being right about everything and also being selfish and arrogant as you can be. And Vegeta, being a guy, surely didn´t hesitate to comply to the crazy woman who did everything that went beyond reason, even for him.

But no love. Vegeta on the other hand, he surely was impressed by this weird creature who has never seen someone not from her species (I count those humanoid animals in DB under human) and just didn´t give a fuck. She was not afraid. She didn´t back off. And she was absolutely sure that nothing would happen to her. In a galaxy where everything was ruled by fear and let´s face it, Vegeta did everything out of fear as well, fear of Freeza, someone who was so completely beyond fear… must´ve been mesmerizing. And since he had nothing to do and nowhere to go after Cell, why not stay and find out some more about her?

One headcanon that is very dear is that Vegeta is completely into light eyes. Saiyans have black eyes, so everything else was surely super exotic and stunning for him. Also, I´m a firm believer that Vegeta, though surely he didn´t plan to, was absolutely into being a father. And I´m also a firm believer that Bulma was the complete opposite, caring about Trunks since someone had to and well, she couldn´t leave him with nannies all the time. In that time, Vegeta taking care of Trunks and living in the same house as Bulma, that would be the time when they maybe got to know each other, beyond sex. Talk, get interested, fall in love. But also, just as plausible is the opposite.

I think Bulma is not a very passionate person. She surely is brilliant (though I always cringe about the definitions of ‘scientist’ in media… bah. I´m a scientist. I can´t screw around on machines, I can´t even fix a flat tire on my bike! But I can work in a molecular biology lab! See the problem?) and she is definitely passionate about that, but I always had the feeling that that didn´t extend to people. Sure, she liked her friends, but differently. Maybe Vegeta being rather reserved suited her.

And Vegeta on the other hand… I made a post that I think the time with Freeza included less physical pain and more psycological abuse, basically getting him to try and keep everyone away from him. Something that would make him crave any sort of bond with anyone, once he finally could allow himself to get over his lifelong fear and just… let it be. So yes, Bulma could love him, but not show it too much and Vegeta could totally be madly in love with her and worship her and enjoy having a family beyond everything he ever imagined. Though he is also pretty posessive, which is also a horrible character trait…

Okay, that´s about it. I could probably go on and on, but it´s already quite long, haha. This is also the last post I had planned on ships…

MEANING have an opinion on this? Want to agree or disagree or share your own ideas and headcanons on Vegebul? Submit or reblog! Wanna share some thoughts about your fav pairings, especially the one´s I haven´t covered yet? Then PLEASE share! I want to read it and surely everyone else does as well:D

fuckyeahhdragonballzyaoi:

GREAT SAIYAMAN IN DA HOUSE!!!

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GREAT SAIYAMAN IN DA HOUSE!!!

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the-truthful-lie-of-fiction:

peoplegetdestroyed:

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Vegeta doesn’t help his wife and baby when they’re in danger. Explicitly states afterwards its because he doesn’t care about them. I’ve heard a million excuses for this like “he knew they would be OK” or “he was focused on other things,” but none of them ‘do’ anything for me.

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Personally, i accept Vegebul more now thanks to Toriyama’s COOL AS FUCK new canon which gave a more consistent and fleshed out characterization for both of them, made me can see why they came together, truth is i don’t even have problems with the…issues you listed here anymore - like he totally knows his shit of being evil at 7 and she knows her shit at being anti-evil machinary at 6, he was never as insane as we thought (childhood tragedy and abuse is overrated) and she was more insane than we thought (guns and all) and the thing is Bulma’s unsureness is in another timeline and Trunks changed something when he time-traveled, so the idea of this couple is less rocky now. 

But i still can’t ship this, and the only problem i have now is the VegeBul fandom. Thank you for point out the thing with Vegeta exploding. I always feel that, too. Too much possession and so little emotional bonding showed, yet fandom made Toriyama’s simple saying “he has changed”  (and “Goku sees Chi and sons as companions”) into “The love bond between Vegeta and Bulma is stronger than Gochi”, “Vegeta is the most romantic Saiyan ever he is totally he homeboy and worships her” and “Goku does not love his wife” I mean WHAT, 

The fandom scared me away from the ship. And uh,  Yamcha/Bulma *love*

I gotta say I will never stop shipping Veggie and Bulma as the ultimate couple, but I absolutely understand the point. And honestly, I wrote about Yamchu and Bulma and they would´ve been perfect together. I would have been totally content with them ending up together and being horribly perfect for each other. They WERE their respective first loves and even if they weren´t a couple at the end, I am completely convinced that they stayed closest friends possible.

It´s something that bothers me with the fandom as well… Gochi is completely underrated. I don´t even like Goku and still think they are a perfect couple! The thing with those tow is that their love would be completely different than what Vegeta and Bulma have. Goku is simply not ‘normal’. Vegeta is somehow more familiar, maybe because such a typical anti-hero character, and Goku is completely different. It´s easy to use that and the fandom-wide dislike of Chichi to just say ‘oh no he doesn´t love her but someone has to cook the food!’ Like seriously, think about it. Goku lived on his own for a long time, completely on his own. He is not used to be around people and he probably doesn´t even realize that other people might need his presence more than he does. That doesn´t mean that he doesn´t love his family and it doesn´t mean that they hate him. Every family is different and it is super interesting to think about it.

With Vegeta and Bulma on the other side… Vegeta comes across as rather possessive, and many mistake that for true love. It isn´t. It´s horrible behaviour, in fact. I personally like to see it that Vegeta was just mesmerized by this crazy creature who wasn´t afraid and didn´t take shit from anyone although she had nothing to actually defend herself (in his view of course) and he simply didn´t want to leave her. Bulma on the other side has this tendency to make questionable decisions and she definitely has a thing for bad boys. She was probably more interested in seeing if she could get a move on Vegeta and much much MUCH later she may have gotten feelings for him. But surely none of them was madly in love before Cell. Maybe a little bit infatuated. Interested. Definitely not love.

But honestly, I would´ve loved to see Vegeta with Chichi, Bulma with Yamchu and Goku on his own.

nevaehs said: Thanks for following DBZideas (I can´t write asks from sideblogs, sorry) I was really happy when I saw that just now, cause I gotta admit, your Vegeta meta sideblog is just SO GREAT. I don´t reblog headcanons on DBZideas, otherwise I would´ve reblogged every single one of your posts, haha. Either way, feel free to submit something : )

the-truthful-lie-of-fiction:

thank you :D I’ve always wondered why dbzideas got so little likes and submissions :( It is so great! And you’re so sweet  :D 

Aw, thanks:)

I don´t know, it´s certainly not from lack of me trying to motivate the followers to submit, haha. I know how it will end though. Submissions trickle in, slowly slowly, I will run out of stuff to write about eventually and all you get are fanarts, FFs and FF recommendations. Who wants that?XD

It´s also simply the fact that I´m not so good at writing meta. I´ve never done it and I noticed that most of my posts are FF ideas and stuff I want to write or read about. Nice meta with screenshot and neat analysis are srsly lacking and I would love some on the blog.

Besides, the poplular headcanon blogs were more of a fighting ground after some time and that´s why I made the topic of the blog so broad, basically everything is allowed, headcanons are fine, but so is meta and FF ideas and whatnot. I have to repeat it over and over and over again, haha. I do love discussing the stuff I´m passionate about, so talking to myself most of the time is, well. Okay.

Okay, I think I´ll reblog this on dbzideas as well, but besides that, I made a post offering requests, do you want one? I´m always so curious what people come up with (and no, it does not have to be smut. No smut would actually be quite nice)

And I can just say it again, your blog is great, I love all your analysis and everyone who reads this should pay you a visit:D

DBZ FF requests Round 2

Updated!

Alright, last time I said I write some requests I finished one super fast and all the others a year later, haha. 

SO here´s the deal! Make a suggestion (I would really prefer a slight direction or a kink or something, but I can work with just a pairing as well) and MAYBE I´ll write it. Sometime. In around a year, latest. But you´ll definitely be notified by me if I can still find you AND the three people who got their requests were all super happy, so maybe consider it, haha.

Le rules:

a) Requests are shoooort. I had people throw finished chapters at me asking if I could finish their FF. NOPE. That´s also super rude, don´t do that.

b) Everything is fine! Not only PWPs, though if I get some delicious hardcore kinks I might feel inclined to … write it sooner.

c) Of course I have fav characters, but so far I´ve written everything. But come on, no more incest, that´s no fun for me and no Goku, except with Chichi. I don´t like Goku. Srsly. And I really don´t care about V/G, so nope to that as well.

d) If you are German, tell me. When I write in German it will be super hilarious, I promise!

And the no-no´s:

I don´t wanna write bondage and maybe scat. Everything else… I mean literally everything is possible. Ask, let me consider and it´s probably a yes, who am I kidding. Someone want a fisting FF? Sounding? Golden shower? Hm? If you don´t know what that all is, don´t google it. Srsly. Don´t.

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Okay, that´s it, bringt it on:D

Gohan ♥ Bulma

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Okay, puh, I wanted to write about this pairing but I kinda had to make up my mind again why found them intriguing and why the heck it could work.

I really have to get back to this FF again, cause damn there was just a short scene with Bulma and Gohan and I was blown away. I instantly loved it.

Now, there are two ways to view this. For one thing, there is the alternate timeline and although it seems super plausible, it´s actually… horrible. No matter how you put it, Gohan was still very young when he died in the mirai timeline, so Bulma would´ve made a move on a minor. And honestly, I don´t like viewing Bulma as a pedophile or a sexual predator while the world is going down. I cut shipping some slack about age differences, but not in cases like that. Besides, Chichi would surely not allow this to happen in the first place, wherever she is in the mirai timeline, but that does deserve a separate post again.

So, the other possibility is of course the regular timeline. Like the Pan/Vegeta scenario, I do like to imagine that Vegeta is somehow out of the picture. Dead, maybe. I just cannot see those two apart for another reason. I gotta admit, I read some excellent FFs where the relationship between Bulma and Vegeta was described as ‘not possible to work out’ simply because the stuck together for sex and later, when that wasn´t enough anymore, the differences were just to great, the fact that Vegeta wasn´t human was just to prevalent.

Back to the topic. Although we never got told what exactly it was Gohan studied later, we can assume that he was close with Bulma. If he did study mechanics or something related, I´m sure she provided him with internships and let him get a look behind the scenes of a big company or simply writing recommendations for him, maybe just financing his research. They would already be relatively close and I don´t see why Gohan wouldn´t admire Bulma and idolize her a little.

From Bulma´s side, I would say she would feel guilty about having feelings for a very grown up, very smart and nice Gohan. She is the oldest friend of Goku and no matter how above every earthly problem Goku is, maybe he would have a problem with where that was going. Though Bulma´s bad conscience about a possible affair would be enough without Goku in the picture.

I can see this as a slowly progressing relationship, something developing from both having lost their previous partners (even if they are not dead, love was involved for a long time and a break-up like that just hurts) Maybe they would just meet up, knowing each other fairly well, both being involved in science fields, trading stories about their labs and current research and trying to forget that they are miserable. Till they want to be miserable together. And then not anymore.

I could imagine that Bulma would be a little less brisk with Gohan, I mean she basically knows him since his birth and she knows what he has been through and no matter that she was affected by all those years of fighting as well, she was still his senior, so somehow she would feel responsible for him. Even if he is already 40. She would feel the need to not be so pushy and arrogant and above everyone as she usually is. And I think Gohan would appreciate that a lot.

So, what do you all think? Horrible, possible or uninterested? Share your opinion via reblog or submit your own headcanon about fav pairings!

THAT is why it´s so hard for me to write this shipping stuff for my sideblog! I get all emotional and want to write thousand FFs about how they cuddle on sofas during the rain and be happy because inside they´re dying and argh><

Okay, I thought I shouldn´t make a post about Gohan and Bulma, cause I couldn´t think about something decent to say besides ‘well, isn´t that a RARE pair, like supe rare?’

I must give credit again, the FF mentioned above, I re-read it again and remembered why I instantly felt connected with this ship. READ IT. Honestly, there are a few things that I don´t like, but in general that FF is a fucking masterpiece.

Puh.

stupidoomdoodles:

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stupidoomdoodles started doing Saiyan traditional garb and I fainted from joy. Except I didn’t really. What I did do was get inspired and draw a Saiyan royal family. Whoops.
So Vegeta’s holding an orb meant to represent the moon and there are also millions of little moon dangly things, like the pendants Vegeta and Trunks are wearing. King Vegeta was wearing it too and I figured “shove it in!” It can be worn by the current reigning monarch and heir apparent.
So would Saiyans have other titles of nobility? Like, Vegeta is the king so Bulma is the queen consort. Trunks is heir apparent (as the older sibling) and crown prince, Bra would be the crown princess, but like Dukes and Counts and Barons and Earls and Viscounts??
And politics? I’m imagining like a Saiyan far right group fainting at the shock of Vegeta marrying an Earthling. A Saiyan House of Lords. A new and innovative way to spice up BBC Parliament.

stupidoomdoodles:

aiaiaias:

stupidoomdoodles started doing Saiyan traditional garb and I fainted from joy. Except I didn’t really. What I did do was get inspired and draw a Saiyan royal family. Whoops.

So Vegeta’s holding an orb meant to represent the moon and there are also millions of little moon dangly things, like the pendants Vegeta and Trunks are wearing. King Vegeta was wearing it too and I figured “shove it in!” It can be worn by the current reigning monarch and heir apparent.

So would Saiyans have other titles of nobility? Like, Vegeta is the king so Bulma is the queen consort. Trunks is heir apparent (as the older sibling) and crown prince, Bra would be the crown princess, but like Dukes and Counts and Barons and Earls and Viscounts??

And politics? I’m imagining like a Saiyan far right group fainting at the shock of Vegeta marrying an Earthling. A Saiyan House of Lords. A new and innovative way to spice up BBC Parliament.

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Vegeta’s family

dbzideas:

The non-Briefs family. 

These headcanons have been on my head for a while. They take DB Minus and the Tarble OVA into account. I’ve tons of questions about Tarble like his totally brotherly love with Vegeta despite being the weak, battle unfit and lost child for like 40 years before he met Vegeta, and the strange thing is why King Vegeta sent him away while there are weak and gentle Saiyans like him fighting for example Gine, and then Vegeta actually KNEW that was Tarble coming and welcomed him knowingly. With Minus why 8 year old Vegeta chose that particular order - of summoning Saiyans back home to destroy them in one shot - to brush off – as if he KNEW – I mean if that was another purging order, he wouldn’t have right? And he was not a smart one like Bardock. I loved Toriyama’s canon and this is my attempt to make them make sense in one story. I can’t write and these are still just mere thoughts, but I still want to share, see if I could add some improvement :) 

Tarble is actually born with very high PL, almost equal to Vegeta. Vegeta had child-like fascination and expectations for  a “worthy” little sparring partner and opponent, and especially since the royal brat had already deemed the commoner kids weak and useless and not worth his time. He eagerly waited til the day his brother is taken out of the incubator. Though he never could look past the PL to really love Tarble as a person, being the oldest child, the sense of family responsibility of a big brother had been formed in him long since. But one day, while Tarble was still in the tub, a certain havoc broke through the palace (still thinking about what it exactly it – a useless servant? A rebellion?  A soldier of Frieza’s ?  A certain enemy ?) and in his rage indulged carelessness, the King let a strayed blast hit the tub and it was broken. Tarble survived, but he was never what he should have been. His memory was there and he was BORN gentle and affectionate to his father and big brother, just his immense power disappeared. After the test of Tarble’s power, Vegeta was extremely angry and disappointed, though no one in the kingdom knew why the second Prince was so weak – except the King’s suspects.  He decided to send Tarble to a really far remote planet  in secret but not sue or kill him, because although he disliked Tarble’s gentleness, he felt it was his fault that his son a warrior full of promises has to become weak, and if he was more capable, this shouldn’t have happened.  Prince Vegeta just couldn’t understand why his harsh and stoic father’s shoulder slumped in resignation when he sent Tarble away. He thought that was ridiculous but never asked.

Shortly before the events in Minus  took place, they were informed that Vegeta’s mother committed succide to protect her honor when she was attacked and nearly raped by Frieza’s much more powerful minions. Vegeta met his mother once on his way to a purging mission and liked her very much because although never titled Queen, she was the fiercest, most powerful Saiyan female warrior there was, her power close to the King himself. Yet she never stood a chance against Frieza’s men. With chaos suddenly happening one after another and all the weak have died, although the King is neither a smart or righteous man who cared, even he knew that his reign and the Saiyans as well as this planet couldn’t live long anymore, especially now that Frieza was asking about the legends of Super Saiyan and the gods and Frieza was someone he never could bow to or trust in any kindness. He summoned the 8 year old Prince – then already a prodigy much powerful than him – and they talked. He warned Vegeta about this things. Being such a prideful, curious, energetic kid with big arrogant dreams  (“I hate Frieza! I want to be the best and topple him!”)  that also respected his father, Vegeta understood this. The King, said that his son best never return to Vegeta-sei again, just leave on his next mission and never come back no matter the reason, just in case. “I don’t know what Frieza’s gonna do. He could destroy us all in one shot if he wanted. I am weak compared to Freiza’ s men, and I don’t have hopes in this generations’ power or will. But you are different. If you want to defeat Frieza, stay alive at all costs till the day you can. You are the only one who can.” The Kid was astonished. He asked: “What about you?” The King said Vegeta should not be concerned with him or this kingdom and planet anymore. He was ready to die in battle against Frieza. “It can’t be helped.” Silence for a while, and Vegeta bowed in acknowledgement of this last order, completely overwhelmed. Just before he left the room, he heard the King say : “And look out for your little brother as well – if he is able to survive out there that is. It was my fault that he turned out weak. Keeping him – keeping you two - alive is the least I could do. At least he would remember who he is. That goes for you as well. Remember what you’re made of.” The Prince left, remembered everything his father said.  Nearly one year after he left for that far planet, Frieza ordered every Saiyan to go back to Vegeta-sei. Vegeta never came back. He heard about the King’s death by Frieza’s hand several days after ignoring the summon, and then followed the destruction of his planet.

Vegeta knew the planet Tarble was sent to, he just never could go find him, since he was demanded to go into Frieza’s service. He also found out that Bardock was another rebel (He met Bardock and knew the man was though not very strong, an able and smart fighter who didn’t take two shit from Frieza, a contrast from his loser of a son who he’s stuck with, and a better fellow warrior than Nappa) He started to be twisted and bitter and more battle-hungry than ever, making it look like he hadn’t any brother to those two. (no one really knew about the second Prince  since the royal family does not announce an heir’s birth unless they have proved themselves worthy)  The rest is history. Vegeta grew up to be as much a drama queen as his father. And since Tarble was living on a planet so far in another galaxy it takes a lot of time to travel. After 5 years leaving Vegeta-sei he found his destination of a remote star. He started the search for his brother and other survivors around the same time Frieza Saga happened, it was not until 9 to 10 years later that he reached the place, and then took off again to Earth.

I don´t think my opinion fits on DBZideas, so I´ll write you something from my main blog;)

Generally, you don´t need to be an author to write a nice headcanon and yours is definitely well thought-through and interesting! I personally am not very interested in DB Minus, so I don´t have anything to contribute on that front. But one thing bugs me, naturally. Veggie´s mum.

I like that she is way more interesting than usual headcanons, haha. I don´t like that she is fridged though. It would´ve been enough if some high ranking Saiyan had been killed by Freeza and somehow I don´t see Saiyans as the kind of people who would kill themselves when humiliated, rather die trying to avenge themselves. Exactly what they are doing later in your headcanon.

This trope is just so common and harmful.

And one more question, now Toriyama gave a rather unlogical answer to Radditz being a survivor, but what about Nappa? Do you have some idea why he survived as well?

mondovegebul:

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mondovegebul:

I always loved this hairstyle, not sure why. I always sort of thought of it as being perfect for Mirai Bulma, because it’s so unlike any other manner in which she wears her hair (in any chronology), super long and all. You’d think she’d keep it super short to just be less of a hassle, but leaving it like this was her take on an easily-manageable but still funky hairstyle. Something more mature, more reserved, more somber…more appropriate to the events and mood of her timeline, but always uniquely Bulma.

Oh gosh, mondovegebul! You’ve completely read my thoughts on Mirai Bulma. I adore this hair-style too and you’re completely right about how a shorter style would be easier to maintain and how it reflects the mood of her timeline, there’s something so utterly sad and hopeful about her and it shines through every time I look at her.  
I’ve always thought that by leaving the length of her hair longer it would be a way for her to possibly reconnect with her past, a way to look in the mirror and remind her self of who she was, of the life she lead and the people who were in it. We all need reminders and whilst Trunks is a physical manifestation of her and Vegeta - of their relationship, of Goku and the Z fighters due to his strength, goodness and heart, I think she needed something a bit more, something that was solely hers. I’m having a moment here, she was a woman that possessed everything and it was stripped from her without warning, such a parallel to Vegeta’s life and whilst one could argue that Bulma at least had half a life time of happiness and family to remember and reminisce upon on. I’d like to argue that everything was ripped from her prematurely: a relationship that she never got to explore, friends that were killed in cold blood, her world destroyed before her eyes and worst of all she had to watch her only child grow up to battle the androids with the knowledge that anyone that had gone up against them died, she sent her own child back in time not knowing if he’d come back…
Don’t you just love tumblr and Akira Toriyama for unknowingly allowing you to find subtle similarities between Bulma and Vegeta, even if they are from another timeline and the best part of it is, it’s canon!

Oooh, awesome! You rule, smalsa. I’ve always known that, but our headcanon baby about Mirai Bulma’s hair has sealed the deal for me. You put it in a really lovely way. And way to make me tear up a bit, damn. NOW ALSO HAVING A MOMENT. I also never really put it together regarding the similarities between her life and Vegeta’s life (though, as you point out, she had a somewhat halcyonic childhood that puts Vegeta’s to shame).
Makes me think some more, too. Obviously there were still people living in her timeline, but as the years wore on and the androids continued to raze town after town the eligible bachelor pool continued to wind down. Her head was always focused on her son (and Son’s son at times) and getting that time machine to work, so part of me thinks she likely stuffed that piece of her down. She was still bubbly and sassy, but I think after losing the only two men she’d ever been in love with in such a painful way, the allure of love was too painful for her to really deal with anymore. I firmly believe that she found her own sense of happiness and peace after Mirai Trunks ironed out all the kinks but I don’t know if rebuilding her life afterwards would include another romantic partner.
Better to have loved and lost blah blah blah, but shit…to have had these friends and family and relationships and lifestyle and then just abruptly not? Screw the new normal; a life without the Dragonballs is something as foreign and abhorrent to the present-day DBZ crew as much as it is to us. To have only known one way of life and then to have such an integral part of you just culled like that one day. And then another day, when your son’s father and your lover dies. And then another, and then all your friends are dead.
How much must that have messed with her head, too? Girl was friends with the strongest people on Earth…people that always saved the day, always came through, always worked out a problem. Even if they fucked up somehow and botched their main jobs in life (to protect said Earth), hey, there’s always the Dragonballs. Except not now. To have your faith in that sense of protection and to see it erased with such terrifying ease…I can’t even imagine.

This is pretty much perfect. I might add though, although it doesn´t say much about the headcanon, short hair is not easier to care for than long hair. Not at all. Considering that the CC was still pretty comfortable from what we´ve seen, it shouldn´t be a problem for her to wash and brush them, and that´s basically all it takes.
But besides that, wonderful headcanon!

mondovegebul:

smalsa:

mondovegebul:

I always loved this hairstyle, not sure why. I always sort of thought of it as being perfect for Mirai Bulma, because it’s so unlike any other manner in which she wears her hair (in any chronology), super long and all. You’d think she’d keep it super short to just be less of a hassle, but leaving it like this was her take on an easily-manageable but still funky hairstyle. Something more mature, more reserved, more somber…more appropriate to the events and mood of her timeline, but always uniquely Bulma.

Oh gosh, mondovegebul! You’ve completely read my thoughts on Mirai Bulma. I adore this hair-style too and you’re completely right about how a shorter style would be easier to maintain and how it reflects the mood of her timeline, there’s something so utterly sad and hopeful about her and it shines through every time I look at her.  

I’ve always thought that by leaving the length of her hair longer it would be a way for her to possibly reconnect with her past, a way to look in the mirror and remind her self of who she was, of the life she lead and the people who were in it. We all need reminders and whilst Trunks is a physical manifestation of her and Vegeta - of their relationship, of Goku and the Z fighters due to his strength, goodness and heart, I think she needed something a bit more, something that was solely hers. I’m having a moment here, she was a woman that possessed everything and it was stripped from her without warning, such a parallel to Vegeta’s life and whilst one could argue that Bulma at least had half a life time of happiness and family to remember and reminisce upon on. I’d like to argue that everything was ripped from her prematurely: a relationship that she never got to explore, friends that were killed in cold blood, her world destroyed before her eyes and worst of all she had to watch her only child grow up to battle the androids with the knowledge that anyone that had gone up against them died, she sent her own child back in time not knowing if he’d come back…

Don’t you just love tumblr and Akira Toriyama for unknowingly allowing you to find subtle similarities between Bulma and Vegeta, even if they are from another timeline and the best part of it is, it’s canon!

Oooh, awesome! You rule, smalsa. I’ve always known that, but our headcanon baby about Mirai Bulma’s hair has sealed the deal for me. You put it in a really lovely way. And way to make me tear up a bit, damn. NOW ALSO HAVING A MOMENT. I also never really put it together regarding the similarities between her life and Vegeta’s life (though, as you point out, she had a somewhat halcyonic childhood that puts Vegeta’s to shame).

Makes me think some more, too. Obviously there were still people living in her timeline, but as the years wore on and the androids continued to raze town after town the eligible bachelor pool continued to wind down. Her head was always focused on her son (and Son’s son at times) and getting that time machine to work, so part of me thinks she likely stuffed that piece of her down. She was still bubbly and sassy, but I think after losing the only two men she’d ever been in love with in such a painful way, the allure of love was too painful for her to really deal with anymore. I firmly believe that she found her own sense of happiness and peace after Mirai Trunks ironed out all the kinks but I don’t know if rebuilding her life afterwards would include another romantic partner.

Better to have loved and lost blah blah blah, but shit…to have had these friends and family and relationships and lifestyle and then just abruptly not? Screw the new normal; a life without the Dragonballs is something as foreign and abhorrent to the present-day DBZ crew as much as it is to us. To have only known one way of life and then to have such an integral part of you just culled like that one day. And then another day, when your son’s father and your lover dies. And then another, and then all your friends are dead.

How much must that have messed with her head, too? Girl was friends with the strongest people on Earth…people that always saved the day, always came through, always worked out a problem. Even if they fucked up somehow and botched their main jobs in life (to protect said Earth), hey, there’s always the Dragonballs. Except not now. To have your faith in that sense of protection and to see it erased with such terrifying ease…I can’t even imagine.

This is pretty much perfect. I might add though, although it doesn´t say much about the headcanon, short hair is not easier to care for than long hair. Not at all. Considering that the CC was still pretty comfortable from what we´ve seen, it shouldn´t be a problem for her to wash and brush them, and that´s basically all it takes.

But besides that, wonderful headcanon!

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Würmchen (Vegeta/Bulma)

This German FF was another prompt by my dear Morathi, most horrible person in the world, cause when I said ‘give me a prompt with some hardcore kink!’ she said ‘oh, write something about hair!’ … Not quite what I imagined. Well, I guess THIS is not quite what you imagined either, hehe.

Length: 3K

Rating: 18+

Warnings:  FLUFF, omg yes, but also sex: oral, rimming, vaginal, hetero-frotting ??? I don´t know how to call it.

Summary: Vegeta enjoys family life, maybe a bit too much. Cause when he involuntarily pissed off Bulma, he didn´t know what was coming for him.

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DBZ another dimension

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Now by request, Vegeta and Bulma Fanfictions! Here are some sexy-good, fun-lovin’ stories about our favorite anime couple ever! Some of these fanfics may not be entirely focused on Vegeta and Bulma’s relationship, but show some very great interactions between them as husband and wife.

From Bad…

And I made this list before I was “out” as Ulrike/Vegetachik. This was one of the main reasons I didn’t want to give out my screen names because of my own shameful self-promotion! Don’t judge meeeee! :D

Swoons at the fact that you have Debbie Chan, Khalan Nightwing and Camaro on there, they are definitely the underrated/overlooked writers of yesterday’s BV fandom, loving that you have Cantare on there too, I adored her BV one-shots. And there’s definitely a few on here I haven’t read and I thought myself quite versed within BV fan fiction…I’ll definitely be checking those out!

I definitely need help with the newer DBZ fanfics that are being created. I was away from the fandom from about 2009-2013, so I feel like I’m missing a lot of the well-known fanfics that could be included on this list. I got a lot of oldies up there! :D

Come on, self promotion is the only tool you have except for readers to find your FF among thousands of others in some crowded FF database. That´s absolutely fine!

Hm, I must say, while I read quite an amount of FFs, I mostly stumbled upon older ones. I still can recommend Kizmet, but she has stopped writing DBZ FFs for 2 years or so. Don´t think she´ll finish her wips (sadly v.v) Though the two stories about Veggie pre-DBZ might interest you, lots of angst (if you don´t know them already)

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Vegeta ♥ Pan

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DBZ Ideas is a meta blog, ranging from headcanons to FF plots. Straying from the canon is appreciated.

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Before anyone thinks what´s wrong with me and my pairing choices, there was ONE fanfic that made me interested in this pairing. I wouldn´t have thought of it otherwise.

So, a little history about it! I looked up some FFs with this pairing cause I was a bit surprised it even existed (a tiny little bit, to be honest) and as expected, most of it was pretty creepy porn. I mean, the age difference is like 50 years.

But then I read this and it was simply perfect. It is the perfect mix of SciFi and horror and fantasy, all combined with a perfect reason for those two to be together…

I maybe shouldn´t all urge you to read that FF, I´ll explain a bit why this pairing could absolutely work.

There is a huge age difference, sure, but I must admit that that is something I quite like in pairings. AS LONG AS both are adults. I don´t want to imagine anything between Pan and Vegeta if Pan isn´t at least 25. Personal taste. Now, considering that it would make sense that Bulma is already dead and Vegeta is probably trying to mentally prepare himself for a final battle against Goku cause what is there to live for if Bulma is no longer there?

Pan on the other hand, I totally see her being in awe with Vegeta. Gohan and Goten were both influenced immensely by him and after Goku just left with Uub, Vegeta was the most likely substitute for training. Maybe Piccolo. I have this headcanon where he never spars with her without his gloves and when she hits puberty and has her first childish crush on Vegeta, she masturbates to the thought of getting touched in any way without the damn gloves. Now, as she gets older she of course looses that crush again, knowing that he is damn old and also married and after Bulma dies…

I cannot see how those two would fall actively in love. Pan, as much as we know about her, even considering GT, is very straight forward and demanding and has certain similarities with Bulma. And if they were in some kind of teacher-student relationship, I could imagine that Vegeta would respect her some. Pan would definitely be the one starting the relationship. She would have less history and, well, young. Less concerned.

Also, something that I like a lot, she is part Saiyan, and she cherishes that. She loves to fight and she is proud, I have the feeling that she likes to feel special and wants to be treated as such and Vegeta of all people could understand that.

This attitude would also be the reason she could try to get Vegeta out of his stupor, because why shouldn´t she be able to do anything? If he was her mentor, he would be important enough to her either way and not to forget, she lacks the history. I´m sure the stories about the great past of Goku and Vegeta were passed around, but I don´t think anyone ever wanted to share the gruesome details. Maybe someone (her father…) told her that Vegeta has bad history, but why should she care? In her opinion he would have no reason to die, just to be sad for a while. And pushing him to get back to life, to fucking spend time with her… well. No longer a child and maybe all those fantasies from years ago weren´t so childish and stupid as she dismissed them.

I don´t think Goku would mind, he´s not the kind of person who really has a problem with what other people do and I think he is pretty indifferent about sexuality and his children´s relationships. I do however think that Pan´s parents would be less than pleased.

Okay, one last rare pair is waiting to get a post, then I´ll move on to some more popular ships, haha.

What do you all think? A total no-go or maybe intrigued by the possibilities? Wanna read that FF now? Do it, it´s worth it, haha. Either way, reblog or submit:)

That pairing. I don´t even have a specific FF idea, but it intrigues me SO MUCH. Why aren´t there good non-creepy FFs out there? Veggie as the adult predator of 18 year olds is… disgusting. But a serious relationship with lots and lots of fucking drama and deep feelings! Ugh, why do I have to write everything I want to read myself, haha.

But srsly. Read that FF at the beginning. It´s great.

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I want some Vegeta/Chichi. Let the Prince and Princess return to their throne.

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Not really as in canon, but if you can ship Goku/Bulma IF THINGS WERE DIFFERENT in canon, why not this? I’m not saying they’d work as a married Couple in canon as it is now, but oh so much chemistry to be at least in a friendship or a brother/sister relationship. And If life didn’t fuck with them that much (no pan-pan for Chi and no Freezer for Veggie) they’d make the most ROYAL couple in anime history IMO. As for Chichi being a “housewife” and Saiyans being killing monsters, when you break it down, it’s just a cultural difference, and i doubt ANY Saiyan can intimidate that woman.

Vegeta is a fighting Saiyan, and a Prince. Chichi is almost a Saiyan in appearance and spirit, and OH GOD she’s a fighting Princess.

Vegeta loves fighting and Chichi can fight. Sounds just like Gochi i know, but Vegeta always seems more likely to spar with and teach “the woman who lives in his house” how to fight and not to keep her in the kitchen or laundry forever like Goku. (that’s the reason she can’t even FLY after years of living with hubby Goku)

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Vegeta though he always goes “I’m the Prince of Saiyans” is a prince in title only and has never sit well with this title when he’s not YET the strongest which he knows he never is since Frieza. Chichi is a princess in tittle only and you don’t hear she say anything you actually forget she was a princess. Hell, I doubt she remembers it herself.

Vegeta’s home was destroyed, so was Chichi’s, and life throws more shit than bliss at them ever since until DECADES later. 

Vegeta is an asshole to everybody except those he really cares for. Chichi knows of nothing except those boys of hers. They don’t really have friends, and are alone most of the times. They are left out of the gang. 

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Their goals IS being the BESTEST in what they do. Vegeta wants to be the BEST warrior. Chichi wants to be the BEST wife. And oh the amount of pride they put into it. So hell-bent on throwing their selves and lives away just to achieve it. And they had lived that goal since childhood.

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However, life has too much shit in store for them, and they struggle forever to realize their goals in the middle of turburlances and the face of their own shortcomings and oh the will, the spirit of theirs. Chichi’s blessed with a husband who always leaves her for fighting and takes her sons away you have to wonder WHY didn’t she give up on being the BEST wife to the WORST husband already. I don’t think i need more words on Vegeta’s part, but WHY does he have to struggle to be the Prince of nothing?

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They want to be the best, but are NOT really equipped to be the best and have to break their back to be while CERTAIN OTHERS who’re always chill with that “YOLO” attitude, are. Chichi is poor and alone wiithout a mother and Bulma is rich with all those machines and friends. Vegeta did not hit his head and got no masters so he can’t be the fighter Goku is. Vegeta rivals that off-worldly genius Goku, and Chichi never competes with anyone, much less Bulma, but that only means she competes with EVERYONE.

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They are both socially awdward dorks who find it hard to express their gentle, loving side decently to spouses and children, letting their anger and worries overcome themselves more than wanted. 

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Though not very…uh, attractive in attitude and life choices, they are both proud, strong-willed, fiery, simple-minded, extremely jealously faithful and loyal to those they care for and the lives they choose to live, so much so that one might see them as one-tracked-minded and naïve.

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They both mature as they age and life changes. And in the same way : tsun tsun to dere dere, aka softer, less uptight and more chill, more accepting, WITHOUT losing their goals and spirit.

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For the same reason : Goku.

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Chichi respects Vegeta more than fanfics portray her and you don’t seeher freak out when Goku became “friends’ with him like in fanfics. I know GT isnt canon but it has a point where she slapped the shit out of Goten for being disrespectful to him. It’s HARDCORE. Vegeta doesn’t hate Chichi as much nor call her a “harpy” like fanfics portray him. (I really want to know where that phrase comes from because i don’t recall seeing it from the English dub)

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Vegeta puns the shit out of Chchi’s chichis, and still smiles like every one else when she makes a scene about her beauty. Chichi is perfectly chill with the MURDEROUS creature being another father figure to her boys.

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Vegeta cares for Gohan and Goten. Chchi knows the reason Vegeta gave up fighting is because Goku is dead.

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They are the one with acute sense of family for the sake of children, each in their own standards. Both are awesome parents that may make mistakes, (due to their childhood and upbringing ) but after all still put their children’s safety and happiness first and foremost.  

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They have quite special relationships with Goku :Their favorite name for him is BAKA. They are the only ones who would, and have the balls NOT to be cray cray fans of Goku’s personality and to smack Goku upside the head for being selfish and ignorant at times, while all the others, despite disliking him for the same reason, can not bring themselves to do shit to him. Only they can make him feel SORRY, and make him facepalm. In this way, they care for, compliment Goku and help his development as a character like no other.

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That Goku has lots of friends, but very few equals. Equals are what he needs.He needs someone who can keep him in check and grounded. He does not need fanboys and fangirls.They are exactly what he needs. Chichi’s loving, ever forgiving heart knows no bounds, and Vegeta’s rivalry is the longest, fiercest out of all rivalries Goku ever had, and both combine these with their impossible stubborn temper and head-strong attitudes.

As a fanon shipper, VegeChi all the way! As a canon! Dragon Ball Z fan, I have to say that they are the ones who bring a sense of dark, down-to-Earth, no-rainbows-and-flowers, out-there-be-monsters, reality to DBZ, in contrast to no-hold-bar, adventure, spoon-fed characters like Goku and Bulma. Toriyama seems to hate “darkly, negatively realistic” characters.  And i hate to repeat this but i must : I always hate how they have THIS MUCH in common yet Vegeta is one of the most loved and overrated characters in fandom but and Chichi is one of the most hated and underrated. Seriously too much sexism towards Chichi in both the creation itself and the fandom’s views of her. As Goku and Bulma were best friends, I want at least some Vegeta/Chichi interaction and friendship in future canon DBZ, especially now that Vegeta is to be the main role.

Just thought this blog needs this post of mine for some character analysis and appreciation :) Chichi is a kind-hearted woman and Vegeta is a really bad guy, but the similarites in their approach to what they live for is hard to ignore. They have more in common than buddies Goku and Bulma, and it would be NICE if we have someVegeta-Chichi friendship in the future. 

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